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		<title>QE3?  Really?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael S. Langston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[QE3?  Really? What has the Fed in QE1 &#38; 2 already spent? A couple trillion, right?  IIRC &#8211; 800 billion here, a trillion there I think. They spent it buying toxic assets, clunkers (link below&#8230; but&#8230; only in America is destroying 2 billions dollars in real property combined with giving people money to buy cars [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/42128767/QE3_May_Be_Unavoidable_Fact_of_Life_Strategist">QE3?  Really?</a></p>
<p>What has the Fed in QE1 &amp; 2 already spent?</p>
<p>A couple trillion, right?  IIRC &#8211; 800 billion here, a trillion there I think.</p>
<p>They spent it buying toxic assets, clunkers (link below&#8230; but&#8230; only in America is destroying 2 billions dollars in real property combined with giving people money to buy cars when we&#8217;re going broke is argued openly to be considered a success), GM, Fannie, AIG&#8230;. etc, etc, etc, but they have yet to tell anyone exactly where any of it went.</p>
<p>They have actively resisted calls for auditing.  &amp; they have done this even while they argue how much all this was needed.  While they go to the American public and claim with all sincerity that if it weren&#8217;t for this spending, we&#8217;d all be so much worse off.</p>
<p>&amp; they do all of this so without as even a mention of what the hell they actually did&#8230;. other than spend a sh!t ton of money we had to borrow and will force future tax payers to deal with.</p>
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<p>Think of this in other contexts&#8230;</p>
<p>Imagine if I said, I&#8217;m selling a service to you, whereby I promise your economic opportunities will increase based upon the money you give me and the things my expertise will spend it on. But as part of our deal, you give me X dollars a month for retainer and you&#8217;re never allowed to know what I spend that money on.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, if you even question me, I&#8217;ll respond defensively about how I saved you from losing your current wealth and how things would be absolutely horrible if you hadn&#8217;t paid me and stopping now&#8230;. well, you will just die.</p>
<p>Add to that, that all of my prior predictions about the economy and what would happen and what QEs would do&#8230;. are ALL WRONG.<span id="more-2151"></span></p>
<p>They stated on several occasions&#8230; without recovery plan, UE will hit 9%, with it, only 8%.  UE in fact hit 10%.  They said by now it should be around 6.5 &#8211; 7%&#8230; it&#8217;s of course 9.2% (see links at bottom for source).</p>
<p>&amp; holly crap&#8230;. if all this weren&#8217;t infuriating enough, for the past&#8230; call it 6 months the government and the Fed have actively argued &#8211; NO QE3. Never, never, never, never.<br />
Up until yesterday of course&#8230;.<br />
So for those playing the home game&#8230;</p>
<p>*IF* we had the 2 trillion that the proposed new tax increase is supposed to raise and the 4 trillion spending cuts are supposed to save&#8230;. but instead of over ten years, we passed the law tomorrow and from it, the government received 6 trillion in cash&#8230;. that would pay for less than HALF of the debt incurred under just this administration in less than 3 years.</p>
<p>Not to mention, the President is actively blaming the Republicans for trying to force a shut down of the government, which will make your grandmother starve (deja vu: 1994), yet NO ONE in the press has seem to have asked one pertinent question:</p>
<p>Mr. President. Your administration did not even pass a budget last year&#8230;. during which time your party controlled both the House and the Senate.</p>
<p>&amp; now to blame the Republicans for disagreeing with your plan, but if the plan is so great and their obstruction is the only thing preventing your perfect plan from stopping us all from mass chaos&#8230; why didn&#8217;t you even attempt to get this passed when your party controlled both houses of Congress?</p>
<p>Meh &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about others, but the closer I get to any national election, starting about 2 years out when campaigning starts now&#8230; the more I have a very strong desire to stab at least 3 random, and likely innocent people&#8230;. daily.   (disclaimer: <em><strong>that </strong></em>was a joke).</p>
<p><a title="Political Accounting" href="http://detailedabstractions.com/2009/08/03/political-accounting/">Clunkers link</a><br />
<a title="Jobless Claims: Reality Versus Politics" href="http://detailedabstractions.com/2011/01/13/jobless-claims-reality-vs-politics/"> UE Link</a></p>
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		<title>The Fear Based Stimulus That Wasn&#8217;t</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael S. Langston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This just seems to be a lie that won&#8217;t quit.  At the very beginning of the Obama administration we were told, by economists, business leaders, the WH, congressional leaders, and really most people that more stimulus was needed in order to avert a major depression of the economy.  We were told, incorrectly, that this bill [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>This </strong>just seems to be a lie that won&#8217;t quit.  At the very beginning of the Obama administration we were told, by economists, business leaders, the WH, congressional leaders, and really most people that more stimulus was needed in order to avert a major depression of the economy.  We were told, <a title="Command and Control Policies" href="http://totalconfusion.com/blog/2009/06/command_control_policies_on_di.html" target="_blank" class="broken_link">incorrectly</a>, that this bill would keep unemployment below 8%.  Indeed, the referred to the Great Depression as hyperbole on a number of occasions to push their point.</p>
<p>A minority of people continued to say that we didn&#8217;t need this or want it and most Americans weren&#8217;t for spending more money, but we know the fear tactic worked.  President Obama <a title="Obama: Stimulus lets Americans claim destiny President signs $787 billion program into law in Denver Tuesday" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29231790/" target="_blank">signed </a>on February 17th a $787 billion dollar appropriation bill to further stimulate the economy.</p>
<p><strong>Since </strong>it&#8217;s signing, we also been told it&#8217;s worked well.  According to the WH it will create or save 3.5 million jobs between now &amp; 2010 (<a title="U.S. stimulus to save 3.5 million jobs by end 2010: official" href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE54A5W120090511" target="_blank">here</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">WASHINGTON (Reuters) &#8211; The Obama administration&#8217;s fiscal stimulus plan will meet previous estimates to save 3.5 million U.S. jobs by the end of 2010, but the unemployment rate at that time may be higher due to further deterioration in the economy, a senior administration official said on Monday.</p>
<p>Vice President Biden also got into the discussion very recently (<a title="Biden touts stimulus, when digital records fail and the public option" href="http://www.chitowndailynews.org/blogs/Chicago_Health_Matters/Biden_touts_stimulus_when_digital_records_fail_and_the_public_option,31557" target="_blank" class="broken_link">here</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">He touted the administration’s accomplishments with regards to the stimulus packages. Biden said 500,000 to one million jobs have been created from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. He noted that when the Obama administration took over in January, the country was losing 700,000 jobs a month thanks to the worst “bagel” in decades (yes, I’m newly addicted to the West Wing). That has slowed to 274,000 jobs.</p>
<p>Mr. Obama as well (here):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">July 11 (Bloomberg) &#8212; President Barack Obama said his $787 billion stimulus bill “has worked as intended” as he pushed back against Republican criticism that his recovery program has failed to rescue the economy.</p>
<p>&amp; of course, we couldn&#8217;t have this debate without a Nobel Prize winning Economist weighing in.  Proving the Nobel Prize isn&#8217;t all it&#8217;s cracked up to be, Paul Krugam weighs in (<a title="U.S. Economy May Have Reached ‘Trough,’ Krugman Says (Update2)" href=" http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&amp;sid=aMZ5qIkGppqA" target="_blank">here</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Aug. 9 (Bloomberg) &#8212; The U.S. economy is stabilizing and may have bottomed out, as the government’s stimulus plan probably saved a million jobs, Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman said today.</p>
<p>Mr. Krugman wasn&#8217;t satisfied with just praising of the administration.  Lone ago giving up up using true economic theory as it refutes his political agenda, he went further:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">A second stimulus package for the economy is still needed, and should be directed at state and local governments as well as infrastructure spending, he said in an interview in Kuala Lumpur. The world economy may face several years of weak growth without falling into a “double-dip” recession, he said.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s</strong> the issue with all these pronouncements?  Simply said, they have no proof in reality.</p>
<p>Currently only 15% of the money has been spent.  That deserves repeating, only 15% of the stimulus has been spent.  According to everything we&#8217;re hearing though, this prevented a depression by creating/saving jobs (<a title="Some states get share of stimulus faster" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-12-statestimulus_N.htm#chart" target="_blank">here</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>The $787 billion economic stimulus bill signed into law by President Obama nearly six months ago contained $288 billion in tax cuts and $499 billion in new spending. So far, the administration has spent $76.3 billion — 15% of the total available.</em></p>
<p>However, even taking the 15% amount isn&#8217;t necessarily a true reflection of the spending.  One must then ask, what was the money spent on and can those expenditures be tied to jobs?</p>
<p>Even the answer to that is a resounding no.  Almost all of that $76.3 billion wasn&#8217;t spent on anything one would typically associate with creating wealth.  $57.3 billion being was spent on safety net, food stamps, medicare, unemployment benefits and other social programs.</p>
<p>Please note, this is not a refutation on social spending, that would be a completely different discussion.  Having said that, it seems obvious that paying people to stay at home is not going to create or save jobs.</p>
<p><strong>The </strong>analysis can&#8217;t stop here though.  With a very small percentage of the stimulus itself being spent, the total spent also represents a very tiny fraction of the economic activity in the United States.  According to current <a href="http://forecasts.org/gdp.htm" target="_blank">estimates</a>, we expect the US economy this year to produce about 14 trillion dollars in GDP.  This is lower than previous years of course, but still a staggering amount of money.</p>
<p><strong>Using</strong> all the numbers we have, we can inject some very simple math.</p>
<p>If we assume that the in the last 6 months, economic activity is around 7 trillion dollars, 76.3 billion dollars a only a little over 1% of total economic activity.  Which means it will be about 1/2% of the economy at the end of the year, unless of course the government actually starts spending the money.</p>
<p>Even as small as that is, if you remove the  $57.3 billion spent on social spending, then you have a total of $19 billion, which is less than 1/2 or 1% of the economic activity generated over the past 6 months.   &amp; that is being very nice, by assuming that all $19 billion actually went to job creation.</p>
<p>Luckily, most Americans already know this (<a title="Majority of Americans doubt Obama stimulus results: poll" href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hRncqUn2Clkl-RcvuaWvAcLUIvrg" target="_blank">here</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">A USAToday/Gallup poll released Monday found that 41 percent of Americans think the spending has made the US economy better, but 57 percent believe it has either made no difference or worsened the recession that began in 2007.</p>
<p>But the idea is still worth repeating since administration officials continue pushing the economic changes as a success for their policies.</p>
<p>Simply stated, the idea that by adding 1% to the current level of economic activity to the US economy would effect it in such a way as to prevent a Great Depression is a fallacy.  A fallacy which needs to be defeated.</p>
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