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		<title>America&#8217;s New War &#8211; The War on Kids!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone remember when Halloween was about running around the neighborhood, staying up late, and eating too much candy?

Well, thanks to how enlightened we've become, things like that are no longer allowed... by law in some places.  In Bellvile, IL the law encompasses ages of those allowed to trick-or-treat, whether children over 12 should be allowed to wear masks at all, and of course the all important curfew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone remember when Halloween was about running around the neighborhood, staying up late, and eating too much candy?  Remember when selling lemonade was easy?</p>
<p>Well, thanks to how enlightened we&#8217;ve become, things like that are no longer allowed&#8230; by law in some places.</p>
<p>In Bellvile, IL the law encompasses ages of those allowed to trick-or-treat, whether children over 12 should be allowed to wear masks at all, and of course the all important curfew.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but it&#8217;s odd to me that this many ordinances are required for a fake holiday.  Even the explanation shows how little the mayor grasps what a police state this is becoming (<a title="Belleville Restricts Trick-Or-Treat Age - Outlaws Sex Offenders" href="http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-belleville-halloween-laws-102909,0,5633852.story" target="_blank" class="broken_link">@Fox2News</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;Mayor Eckert said &#8220;We had listened for many years to our residents, particularly seniors and single moms who said it was kind of scary many times when high school aged kids, people who are as tall as you and me, 6-feet tall, coming to their door late at night.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;We firmly believe that trick or treating is for children, and when they get to be an age, if their parents aren&#8217;t sensible enough to tell them they&#8217;re getting too old, you&#8217;re getting too big, then we feel that the ordinance is in tact for our police officers to not have to tap them on the shoulder telling them to knock it off,&#8221; explained Eckert&#8230;.</p>
<p>With all due respect to the mayor, I don&#8217;t honestly care what you &#8220;firmly&#8221; believe about Halloween.</p>
<p>Honestly, I tend to agree that 16 year olds running around for candy is stupid.  But I&#8217;m not sure that if parents allow their kids to do things I &#8220;firmly believe&#8221; are stupid equates to a government attempt to micromanage behavior on Halloween.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s instructive that the mayor doesn&#8217;t even seem to grasp the long term consequences of these actions.  Maybe someone should ask, &#8220;What if you firmly believed Halloween was evil?  Would you ban it altogether?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course since they&#8217;re all busy dealing with youth crime, maybe they don&#8217;t have the time to answer.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not kids and Halloween messing things up, but kids &amp; unlicensed businesses.  It&#8217;s so bad in some places, that neighbor&#8217;s are calling the cops  (<a title="Cops Bust Neighborhood Lemonade Stand on a Tip From Suspicious Neighbor… Good Job!!!!!" href="http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/19/cops-bust-neighborhood-lemonade-stand-on-a-tip-from-suspicious-neighbor-good-job/" target="_blank">whole thing here</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;Juveniles, seven of them, on a quiet residential street, selling an uncontrolled substance: lemonade. A neighbor had dimed them out, and a Haverford Township police officer responded in a hurry. When he arrived at the two-story brick house on Maryland Avenue, he dutifully informed Dana Kleinschmidt, mother of four of the reputed offenders, who included 5-year-old triplets, that they were violating the law. They were selling lemonade without a permit&#8230;.</p>
<p>Which in and of itself is dumb enough, but wait&#8230; after scaring little kids, it turns out what they were doing actually wasn&#8217;t against the law at all.  Enter John Viola, Deputy Chief of Police, to explain things:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;The responding officer – who was unavailable, whom Viola would not identify, and whose name and badge number were blacked out of the police report – invoked a township ordinance against vending without a permit. What the officer didn’t realize, Viola said, is that the law doesn’<span>t</span> apply to anyone younger than 16&#8230;</p>
<p>So there you have it &#8211; the <em>War on Kids</em> just had an innocent casualty due to a simple misunderstanding.  It&#8217;s just another  training opportunity really.</p>
<p>Or at least that&#8217;s as it appears.  In a stunning admission by the Deputy, he explains how they will continue to harass anyone they want, even if it&#8217;s not really illegal.  Seriously &#8211; how are they supposed to know the law?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;“The police officer would have no way of knowing this on the street,” Viola said. “He acts on information he has available.”&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems obvious to me, that if cops aren&#8217;t required to know the laws they are enforcing, we might have a problem, but I admit I&#8217;m not a cop.  I do recall something from school about ignorance being no defense, but I guess that&#8217;s only if <em>you</em> are charged with a crime, not if you&#8217;re being harassed for breaking a non-law.</p>
<p>Welcome to (NEW) America:  Home of the criminal, land of the state.</p>
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